In this conversation between good friends and colleagues, Leigh Brasington and Heather Sundberg explore their personal practice stories in jhanas and emptiness, stories about their teachers Ayya Khema and Ajahn Jumnien, and dialog about the riches to be found in deepening concentration through jhana practice to support deepening into emptiness-awareness practice.
Leigh Brasington specializes in teaching the Sutta-based Ven. Ayya Khema Jhanas, which he has been teaching with her blessing since 1997. He is the author of Right Concentration: A Practical Guide to the Jhanas and several other books.
Heather Sundberg is an Insight Meditation teacher who specializes in teaching the Ajahn Jumnien MahaSati Pure-Awareness Emptiness practices, which she has been teaching with his blessing since 2013. Her primary work is supporting small groups of experienced students in long-term MahaSati Training spanning in length from 2 years to 10 years.